ACC Forum – Administrator Aaron Wislang pulls members posts – Why?

November 21, 2011 1:58 pm •
Takapuna Bomb Plot (Screen Capture from ACC Forum website)

Takapuna Bomb Plot, screen grab from www.accforum.org

Minister responsible for ACC, Maryan Street, the woman both Weal and Miller had been chatting too

During  a routine check on incoming traffic we noticed a pattern with one of the referring sites and went looking. It would appear that the admin of www.accforum.org has been doing a spot of house-keeping, or should we say getting rid of evidence.

Aaron Wislang has been combing his website for evidence that has been posted, including links to pdf files by his members against Douglas Weal and Kenneth Miller. Any recent unflattering posts that refer to his father, Dr Miles Wislang also appear to be getting the chop. Aaron has additionally been removing any links to www.laudafinem.wordpress.com that he manages to locate.

For years Aaron Wislang has allowed highly defamatory material to be posted on his fathers site www.accforum.org. It appeared that Aaron Wislang was a defender of the right to free speech to the extreme. Whats happened to change Aaron’s mind? It would appear that Aaron Wislang, Douglas Weal and Kenneth Miller are just a little concerned, as well they should be.

The evil Mr Kenneth Miller aka "Tomcat"

This sort of behaviour is more evidence of the true purpose of www.accforum.org and it’s competitor site www.accfocus.org, which we all now know was established by Kenneth Miller.

Yesterday (20/11/2011) someone had commented in a thread – which was then promptly removed. That post asked a question of another site member who uses the moniker “Tomcat” (none other than Kenneth Miller). The poster asked Miller to confirm that he had been aware of the police raid on Alan Thomas’s home prior to the event. We note that Miller has over the years denied that he had been.

That particular post also contained an attachment; a pdf file, which also disappaired with Aaron’s very sudden and targeted clean-up of his site.

We were obviously curious so we again went looking, wading through the tranche of documents we had, hoping to locate something that may have matched the pdf material that the poster had intended his fellow members to see. We think we have found a number of documents that would at least seem to fit the question that was asked of Kenneth Miller.

They are  to be found below, but first remember that the question put to Kenneth Miller (Tomcat) was this: “Did you know about the police raid on Thomas’s house before it took place” Kenneth Miller and his accomplice Douglas Weal had of course, for years, denied that Weal and he had known.

Millers accomplice, Douglas Weal aka "47 Deep South"

Kenneth Miller had in fact claimed that he was forced into the position of contacting ACC and giving evidence. We think that the following emails between the pair might go some way to proving otherwise, we believe just as with everything else that this pair got up to they set Alan Thomas up for their own reasons. We have three people working on this story, it is a very convaluted plot and some of those assigned are part-time volunteers, so please bare with us, in the mean time read the emails for yourselves:

Important:  Although it may appear that some emails have been duplicated, they haven’t. Please look at the addressee’s, some emails have been forwarded after the fact to other parties – rather than being carbon copied at the time the emails were sent.

From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 13 January 2008 9:29:34 AM
To: “Dave” (redacted)
Subject: Re: pike
Thanks
Had drinks with Gaffa and Tomcat last night.
They have an idea what is going on re Thomas but don’t have the inside info.
Tomcat has downloaded this thread and sent it to Sue North as requested.
From: “Dave” (redacted)
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: pike
hi,
still there page 2 of looking at last two weeks topics
dave
From:Douglas
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Fw: Contact
Hi Megan

Private and Confidential.

I have been approached by several people about the following problem.

We need a “conduit” into ACC, where we can feed high value information about ACC and Claimants. However the information needs to be seen by Dr White, before it disappears down the chain of command.

This situation has been brought about because it appears that since the internal enquiry into the activities of the ACC Fraud Unit, senior ACC staff are so busy watching their backs they appear too scared to act, and to the extent they appear to be no longer receptive to copies of hard information. Several persons who have contacts within ACC have reported this problem.

What we are asking for is a contact person, phone number or email address, where the Minister can assure us, the information is seen by Dr White, before it is distributed within ACC; and if so requested, the source of the information remains with Dr White’s office.

I ask that the Office of the Minister facilitate this?

I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

Douglas Weal

From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 16 January 2008 12:16:04 PM
To: “hardwired” (Redacted)
Subject: Fw: Contact
Copy FYI

—– Original Message —–

From:Douglas
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Fw: Contact

Hi Megan

Private and Confidential.

I have been approached by several people about the following problem.

We need a “conduit” into ACC, where we can feed high value information about ACC and Claimants. However the information needs to be seen by Dr White, before it disappears down the chain of command.

This situation has been brought about because it appears that since the internal enquiry into the activities of the ACC Fraud Unit, senior ACC staff are so busy watching their backs they appear too scared to act, and to the extent they appear to be no longer receptive to copies of hard information. Several persons who have contacts within ACC have reported this problem.

What we are asking for is a contact person, phone number or email address, where the Minister can assure us, the information is seen by Dr White, before it is distributed within ACC; and if so requested, the source of the information remains with Dr White’s office.

I ask that the Office of the Minister facilitate this?

I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

Douglas Weal

From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 16 January 2008 8:29:09 AM
To: “hardwired” (redacted)
Subject: ACC
Hi Dave
Phone me
We need to get the info into ACC.
I suggest, in the absence of other better alternatives it is feed through Lahman, then we follow it up by later providing copies the Jan White?
Not ideal – but at least better than sitting on it?
From: “Megan Bly” <Megan.Bly@parliament.govt.nz>
To: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Contact
Hi Mr Weal,
I appreciate that you can’t communicate with Mr Davis, who holds the most
appropriate position to act as the conduit you seek.  Another option is to
send your correspondence to the attention of Dr White and mark it as
private and confidential.  Dr White does read her correspondence and I am
sure that the information you send will be received and viewed by her.
If you remain unhappy about that option the only other person you may want
to consider is the Chair of the ACC Board, Ross Wilson.  You could send
correspondence to Mr Wilson at PO Box 242, Wellington.
Regards
Megan Bly
Private Secretary ACC
Parliament Buildings
Wellington
From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
To: “Megan Bly”<Megan.Bly@parliament.govt.nz> 23/01/2008 12:19 pm
cc:(redacted at source)
Subject: Re: Fw: Contact
Hi Megan
Thank you for your reply.
Mr. Barry Davis was formerly acting Branch manager for ACC in Whangarei.
There is currently an application before the District Court for a summons
for him to appear for cross examination for an allegation of “perverting
the course of justice” in that he withheld information for a review in my own
case, in February 07.
Barry Davis is also due to be examined by a QC investigating the case of
Mrs. Val Forster, basically on allegation for the same type of offences.
There are numerous other complaints by claimants against Mr. Davis relating
to his ability to make files disappear.
As you can see, people would be reluctant to deal with Mr. Davis, and I am
legal unable to make contact this person. Mr. Davis has a reputation as a
McGreevy lapdog sent in when a “cover-up” is required.
Any other suggestions?
Regards
From: “Megan Bly” <Megan.Bly@parliament.govt.nz>
To: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Contact
Dear Mr Weal,
Thank you for your email.  I have discussed your concerns with the
Minister regarding your request for a ‘conduit’ into ACC.  While I am sure that Dr
White does get to see the information that you provide, if you would like a
senior member of staff as a contact, then the most appropriate person is
Barry Davis.  Mr Davis is currently the Director of the Chief Executives
Office.
Mr Davis can be contacted on 04 918 7700 (ACC’s main line) or
barry.davis@acc.co.nz or PO Box 242, Wellington.
I appreciate that you are aware that these issues are operational in
nature and therefore the responsibility of the Chief Executive of ACC rather
than the Minister.
I hope this information helps.
Regards
Megan Bly
Private Secretary ACC
Parliament Buildings
Wellington
From: “Douglas”<douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 2 February 2008 8:54:04 AM
To: “Dave” (redacted)
Subject: Re: tomas

Dave

I don’t think I told you about Thomas’s plan for the Takapuna Office.
The Assembly Point for fire alarms is in the public carpark. His plan is to park the van packed with
explosives and nails at the assembly point. He told me he was looking for someone (ACC client)
to go into ACC and set of the fire alarm. He would wait until they had all assemble outside,
around the van – then set it off. He said the good part of the plan was the person he was trying to
get to set of the fire alarm wouldn’t know about the van – and there would not be any witnesses
left to know who set off the fire alarm.

Click to enlarge: Email from Kenneth Miller to Sue North at the Accident Compensation Corporation

Note: In the email above Kenneth Miller appears to somewhat fancy himself as a psychologist and proffers his unqualified opinion, this method is a Hallmark of both Miller and Weal – They always set out to incite the formation of prejudicial views:
“As we believe he is very capable of doing this and somewhat crazy enough”
From: “kprm” <kprm@xtra.co.nz>
Date: 8 February 2008 12:52:19 PM
To: “Dave” (redacted)
Subject: Re Turdo…(Alan Thomas)
Yo,
      Had the phone call, and another from “ACC Security”…
They is not impressed and very concerned… And agree Turdo (Thomas) is “dangerous”.
The above emoticon was attached to the email by Miller

From: “Douglas”
Date: 21 February 2008 10:34:19 PM
To: “dave”
Subject: Fw: Mr T
—– Original Message —–
From: Douglas
To: Tomcat
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:33 PM
Subject: Mr T
Been down and made my statement. The police are taking it seriously and are planning a raid on his house.

From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 22 February 2008 10:51:42 AM
To: “hardwired” (redacted)
Subject: Private and confidential
Dave
Current versions
Destroy last copy.
Copy of my statement also.
The report on our detailed investigation will out-line the reasons why Douglas Weal wanted all previous versions of this document destroy, it’s incredible!
The police statement of Douglas James Weal dated the 21/02/2008 can be read here
From:kprm
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:59 PM
Subject: Re T. + Mr Plod (Alan Thomas and the New Zealand Police)
Hi,
     Just had a call from Warren… = Did I, speak to police, re Thomas threatening to blow up Takapuna office.
So Something has happened… ???
Cheers,
Kenneth Miller,
ph…09-4018821
Note: The emoticon’s that Kenneth Miller uses “ad nauseum” in his posts on www.accforum are another hallmark. They seem to relate to his emotional state at any given time. In the above emails he obviously appears to be smug,  gloating and proud of his and Weals work in their success, having initiated the process of  Alan Thomas’s destruction! 
From: “Douglas” <douglas@planet.net.nz>
Date: 4 November 2008 9:26:43 AM
Subject: re: Alan Gordon Thomas
In February this year, at the request of the police I made a statement about Mr. Thomas . Mr. Thomas was subsequently arrested and charged with offences, however I do not know the details. In about June or July Mr. Thomas, through his solicitor appears to have obtained a copy of my statement. Since that time I have been subject to abuse and accusations from cohorts of Thomas, including many unwelcome phone calls. Mr. Thomas has published many veiled threats on the internet, which I have passed onto you, but in the past he has been not named who these threats were directed at.
Yesterday Alan Thomas named me on the internet stating the allegations against him were false, named me and stated I will be prosecuted. I regard this as a threat and an attempt to intimidate me into not giving evidence against him. (see attached copy).
Mr. Thomas latter modified his internet posting to attack me personally. (see attached)
It has been reported to me by Dave Butler, that he has been approached by Warren Forster on several occasions, asking him to make a statement that it was me that was planning to bomb the Takapuna office of ACC, and I set Thomas up. (why would I do that – I have nothing to do with the Takapuna office – don’t even know where it is?). It is also being alleged that the “objectionable material” found on Mr. Thomas’s computer was planted.
This whole matter is going too far.
I made a statement to the police about the conversations I had with Alan Thomas over one year ago. I made no accusations – I just recounted the conversation to the best of my memory. Since the time of these conversations I have tried to put as much distance between myself and him as possible, as they were of a nature of something I do not wish to be anyway involved in.
I have had enough of being threatened by Thomas and his cohorts in an attempt to dissuade me, and others, from giving evidence against Alan Thomas.  (see postings)
I ask you to do something about it. Please regard this as a formal complaint of attempting to intimidate a potential police witness.
Regards
Douglas Weal
ph 09 4356516,  0272840044
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  • A good friend says: • March 3, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Interesting the initials kprm are also found below

    ACClaim Whangarei has been around for some time, But due to health and other reasons now requires some more “able persons” to run/organise it.

    It has been registered with IRD as non Profit organisation.

    If your are interested in restarting the group please contact me kprm@xtra.co.nz

    PHONE. 09-4018821

    Reply

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